Draft of MINT00152 (Mint 19/3/2-3)

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The Scots ever since a treaty between them & the English in order to an union in the reign of King James I have coyned their silver moneys of the same standard with the English vizt 11 ounces 2 penny weight fine & eighteen penny weight allay. For which end they have indented trial pieces made here of the same plate with those made for the English Mint. The standard Troy weights by which they coyn are also made at our mint at the same time with ours by common consent of both Mints, & our Pound Troy is greater then theirs by four penny weight & nine grains. And as we divide our ounce Troy into 62 pence so they divide their ounce Troy into sixty two shillings (for their shillings answer to our pence) excepting that in consideration of the charge of coynage & to prevent the melting down of their moneys they make their money lighter by four shillings in sixty (as I am informed): so that sixty shillings of their money are to their ounce Troy as 56 to 62 or 28 to 31 & by consequence ought to weigh 425gr or 17dwt 17gr of our pound Troy (as I find by experience they do) & to be worth 54 english pence & 910th parts of a penny. The experiments we have made of the weight & fineness of their money are as follows

Date Pieces coyned Kings reign weight Fineness Value
1673 A two Mark piece Cha. II 175 worse vij 1s. 978
A mark piece Cha II 86 worse vij 0. 1034
1675 Another. Roettiers. Cha II 102 worse ij 1. 1
1665 A half mark piece Cha II 42 worse iiij. ob 0. 514
1681 A three pound piece Cha II 416 worse iiij 4. 434
1682 Another Cha II 425 worse iij 4. 616
1691 Another W & M 425 standard 4. 6910
1687 A forty shillings piece Iam. II 284 not assayd ✱. ✱
1688 Another Iac. II 283 sta 3. 012
1689 Another W & M 284 sta 3. 023
1694 Another W. et M 284 sta 3. 023
1695 Another W. 284 sta scant 3. 023
1695 Another Gul. 283 worse iij 3. 0
1696 Another Wil. 284 sta 3. 023
1696 Another Wil. 283 worse ij 3. 016
1695 A twenty shillings piece Gul 142 sta 1. 613
1695 Another Gul 142 sta 1. 613
1696 Another Wil. 142 sta scant 1. 623
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Coyns Kings reign Date Weight Finenes Value
A ten shillings piece Iam II 1687 71gr sta 0s. 9d16
Another Iam. II 71 sta 0. 916
Another Gul 1695 71 not assayd ✱. ✱
Another Gul. 1695 71 sta 0. 916
Another Gul. 1695 68 sta 0. 834
A five shillings piece Gul. 35 wors 1dwt 0. 412

The two Mark the Mark & the half Mark pieces coyned before the year 1675 are bad work, & considerably coarser & lighter then Standard: for which reason they were called in neare the end of that reign & are no longer current.

The sixty, forty, twenty, ten & five shilling-pieces coyned since are better money, & make up the bulk of the money which now comes out of Scotland. Those coyned in the reigns of King James & King William are well sized. Most of their money here examined is standard, none too fine some too coarse so that one piece with another it may be recconed above an half penny weight wors then standard.

The Scots pay their shillings for our pence in the borders of England & putt off our crown pieces for 65 & sometimes 66 of their shillings in Scotland (as I am told) which being an advantage of 8 or 10 per cent has filled the borders of England with their money & Scotland with ours. And the carrying on of this trade might in time have prompted them to melt down our money & carry it to their mint.

The passing of our crowns for 66 shillings scotch is after the rate of 11 shillings for 10d or 10s for 9111, which considering that some pieces of their money are jdwt ijdwt iijdwt & iiijdwt worse then standard & some are light, is about the just value, as you may perceive by the foregoing Table. But because all nations to discourage the importation of forreign money & secure themselves from loss by the receipt of base & light money amongst it, receive it not but at an undervalue it may be more reasonable their ten shillings pieces in England for nine pences their five shillings pieces for four pence-half pennys & their Mark & half Mark pieces (when ever they shall coyn any more of them) for shillings & sixpences. And so proportionally of their other standard money. For these are round & ready recconings fit for use & approach the true value of their moneys, with the abatement of only 1 per cent, for our security, which is a very small one, considering that their money may be more easily counterfeited then ours & grows lighter dayly by wearing.

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If the scotch money were all coyned of a just allay & weight 11s. 9d. of such money would be worth 10d34 of ours. But being found one piece with another at least obwt wors then standard, 11s 6d scotch is worth only 10d12 english But because all nations to discourage the importation of forreign money & secure themselves from loss by the receipt of light & base money amongst it receive it not but at an undervalue the Scots receive our twelve pence in Scotland only for 13 shillings of their money. And 'tis reasonable that we should undervalue their money as much in England as they do ours in Scotland which may be conveniently done by receiving their 10s pieces for 9 pences, their 5s pieces for four pence halfpennies & their Mark & half mark pieces (whenever they shall coyn any more of them) for shillings & sixpences, & so proportionally of their other pieces of money. For these are round & ready recconnings fit for use & approach the true value of their money with the abatement of only 1 or 113 per cent for our security, which is a very very small one considering that their money may be more easily counterfeited then ours.